I Call Too Many Things “Rational”
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NOTEFrom Over 90% to 66.7%: I Was Never as Rational as I Imagined is the previous post, meow. Sharing it across several platforms brought in plenty of comments and people thinking things through with me, which was wonderful! Your webmaster loves this, meow! Please have intense brain sex with me and let us ✝ascend✝ together. As the title suggests, this post is going to talk about rationality and things like that, meow!
First, here is a really thoughtful long comment under the previous post! There was some debate before it too, but I think this one gets at my problem best!
You can read the whole exchange in this thread: https://linux.do/t/topic/2982805

Time to Think It Through
What Did “Rationality” Mean in My Previous Post, Anyway?
After reading this person’s comment, I really did suddenly see the problem. Writing the previous post felt great, sure, but the word “rationality” referred to different things in different paragraphs
I completely missed that when I first wrote it, because in my head they apparently were all one big lump to begin with, haha
Following the three categories that commenter laid out for me, they roughly break down into:
- The sciences, or my preference for objective, scientific knowledge and its methods
- Efficiency as a value: my habit of weighing inputs against outputs, optimizing my time, and pursuing whatever is “more effective”
- Rational thinking itself: reasoning, analysis, verification, and revising judgments in light of new information
And there is the problem: I called all three of these “rationality” in my previous post
For example, when I wrote about liking math, physics, and the universe as a kid, and disliking things I considered “subjective,” a large part of that so-called rationality was simply a preference for science and objective knowledge
Later, when I described my efficiency-obsessed brain counting, recording, and measuring my behavior, “rationality” had started to mean valuing efficiency
And toward the end, when I said that “rationality and sensibility began to coexist,” rationality had become a way of analyzing and thinking about the world
These three things kept switching channels throughout the post, haha
While writing, I didn’t find any of it strange, because they had grown together throughout my life
Liking objective knowledge, analyzing things, quantifying them, pursuing efficiency
Over time, I stuffed them all into a box called “rationality,” then stuck a label on the outside:
RATIONALITY
Looking back now, that was a bit hasty, alas
Rearranging My Values
Once I separate those three things, the whole “going from over 90% to 66.7%” in my previous post starts to look a little odd from the outset
What actually changed may not have been “the proportion of me that is rational,” but the order of my values
As a kid, I valued things that were objective, certain, provable, quantifiable, and had clear answers
A math problem has a correct answer. A program either runs or gives you an error
Those things gave me a very definite sense of security
By contrast, questions like “what do I like?”, “does this painting look good?”, or “why did someone make that choice?” seemed terribly vague to me back then
No universal answer, no standard score, and different people could even reach completely opposite conclusions
So I naturally put the first kind of thing very high on the list, and ranked the second kind below it
But once I started making games, writing, creating things, and talking with more and more people, I found that many of the things I truly wanted to do could not get around those questions
Whether a game is fun isn’t a purely technical question. Whether a story makes me care about a character is a fairly vague experience too:
Some people can establish a character in a few minutes, while others leave you wondering what that character was there for from beginning to end, haha
Whether an article makes me feel “yes, this is what I wanted to say” doesn’t seem to have a universal metric either. Especially now that AI assistance is inevitably part of my writing process, whether the result really says what I mean and reads right to me is still something only I can judge
Even the question of why I want to make games isn’t itself the conclusion of some rational deduction
I just want to. I like it. I want to create a world people will remember. It is that simple, though actually doing it is hard, haha
Looking back, then, the change I went through may not have been:
I used to be rational, and now I have become emotional
It was more like:
I used to recognize only a narrow set of things as valuable, and now I am willing to recognize more things as valuable in themselves
My old self might have asked, “What use is this?”
Sometimes, my current self answers, “Because I like it”
And somehow I find that answer sufficient. That really does sound more like rearranging my values than watching a stat called “rationality” drop from 90 points to 66.7
Seen that way, the 66.7% in my previous post looks completely subjective, alas
The Straw Vulcan
That comment also introduced an interesting concept I hadn’t known before: the straw Vulcan
Put simply, it is like setting up a straw man beside a real target, making it look similar, knocking it down, and claiming you hit the actual target
The straw man in my previous post seems to have been this version of “rationality”: a truly rational person should be calm, emotionless, unaffected by personal preferences, and always act according to the optimal solution
A bit like a robot in science fiction: “Calculations indicate that this plan has the highest probability of success. Executing”
Meanwhile, the human beside it is crying, “But that’s your friend / parent / lover!”
The Vulcan, expressionless: “Emotions are meaningless”
That sort of thing, haha
I portrayed rationality as something that rejects emotions and subjectivity, trusting only technology, data, and efficiency
Then, in the second half of the post, the hero, “sensibility,” charges in and tells it: the world doesn’t work like that! Emotions have value too! The big rational villain goes down, and sensibility wins
But thinking about it now, here is the problem: why does real rationality have to fight emotions at all?
Suppose my goal is simply to make a fun game
Playtesting, observing player feedback, analyzing why combat feels boring, adjusting the mechanics: all of that is rational too
Or suppose my goal is simply to spend time with someone I like
Thinking about how to start and maintain a relationship, communicate effectively, and avoid hurting them through my behavior is perfectly rational as well
Rationality doesn’t generate these goals out of thin air, but it can help me ask: are the things I am doing actually taking me toward where I really want to go?
So perhaps the problem wasn’t that “real rationality is bad,” but that I had quietly attached my own set of values to it:
- Objectivity is best
- Efficiency comes first
- Emotions are noise
- Subjective experience is unreliable
Then I called that entire package “rationality”
Of course sensibility would conflict with it
I had already written the script and assigned the roles from the beginning, haha
Did I Really Expand My Model?
Now for a question I find more interesting, and a little more likely to set off my defenses. In my previous post, I rather liked explaining the change this way:
I haven’t abandoned rationality; my cognitive model has just grown larger
The old model could accommodate only data, efficiency, and objective facts. Now I have added variables like emotions, subjective experience, and human nature
It looks very reasonable. I even felt a bit impressed with myself, haha
But that comment offered another explanation: what if this wasn’t simply a “model upgrade”? What if my preferences changed first, and I then built another theory to rationalize my current preferences?
Reading that really left me three parts puzzled, three parts defensive, and four parts deep in thought
Because it looked surprisingly similar to the way of thinking I had criticized my childhood self for in the previous post
As a kid, I liked the sciences and disliked some things I wasn’t good at
So I concluded, “Objective things are superior to subjective things”
A worldview that was very convenient for me
Now I like creating things, subjective experiences, and talking with people, and I have begun to place more importance on emotions
So I have concluded, “Rationality and sensibility should coexist”
I used to like A, then build a theory proving that A was better. Now I like A+B, then build another theory proving that A+B is better
Turns out I’m still the same kid I always was, unchanged, haha
And honestly, I can’t fully answer that question yet
But I do think a change in values and a change in one’s cognitive model do not have to be mutually exclusive
My priorities have indeed changed; that is a fact. At the same time, my understanding of the word “rationality” really has changed too
I used to mix up rationality, objectivity, efficiency, and the sciences. At least now I am trying to separate them, and that is itself a conceptual correction
So perhaps it is neither “I have simply become more emotional”
Nor “I have simply become more rational”
My preferences, values, and ways of understanding things have all changed together
As for how much of that is actual progress in understanding, and how much is my current self writing a prettier explanation for myself… impossible to quantify
After all, if I confidently announced right now, “I see through all of it now!”
Then a few years later, some future version of me would probably dig up this post: “Why were you so confident again? Now I have to clean up after you again”
Pretty funny, really
Maybe Rationality and Sensibility Were Never Opposites
The more I write, the more I think my most basic mistake was this:
I always assumed “rationality” and “sensibility” were opposite ends of a single axis, sharing one pie between them
That is why my middle-school self could so naturally answer:
I am more than 90% rational
Later, I very seriously revised that number to:
66.7%
Looking at the question now, I can barely keep a straight face, because I no longer know what that percentage was supposed to measure, alas
A person can have a deeply emotional goal and pursue it very rationally
Liking a character is a feeling. Analyzing why I like them is thinking
Wanting to create a character players will care about is a value-driven goal. Studying characterization, dialogue, narrative structure, and player feedback is a method
These things can absolutely coexist, and very often they should
Without feelings, I might not know why I want to do something in the first place. Without rationality, I might never work out how to actually make it happen
So instead of saying:
Rationality is responsible for suppressing sensibility
My current self would rather say:
Feelings tell me what is worth pursuing
Rationality helps me see reality clearly and judge how to get closer to it
Of course, that sentence surely has its own problems too
Desires can themselves be influenced by reasoning, rationality isn’t merely a tool, and feelings can sometimes help us understand the world in return
But at least it is closer to my current understanding than “rationality and sensibility fight, and we see who wins”
And writing this suddenly reminded me of a line from the previous post:
I started letting objective technology serve subjective experiences
At the time, I simply thought it fit the way I was making games. Looking at it again, it turns out to be a pretty good example
Technology doesn’t lose its objectivity by serving subjective experience. Subjective experience doesn’t lose its warmth and color because it uses technology
They are each doing what they are good at
Perhaps so-called “coexistence” was never about two enemies finally calling a truce
It was about finally realizing that they were never on the same axis
Closing Thoughts
So if someone were to ask me now:
“How much of you do you think is rational?”
I probably wouldn’t rush to answer 90%, or proudly pull out 66.7% anymore, haha
I might first ask:
Which kind of rationality do you mean?
My preference for science and objective knowledge? My pursuit of efficiency? Or the methods I use to reason, judge, and revise my views?
If you insist that I give you a percentage right now… I still can. I do still like numbers, after all, haha
Only this time, I probably wouldn’t seriously believe that the number could actually explain who I am…
Your webmaster is still young, after all. There are probably plenty of things I haven’t thought through deeply enough. But that is rather nice too: it draws in knowledgeable people who can’t bear to watch me get it wrong, haha
Someone pointed out problems in the previous post, and this one grew out of that. If someone finds new problems in this one, maybe another post will grow out of it too
Rather than proving I am always right, I now find this process pretty interesting: someone gives me a tap on the head, and I go, “Oh, so there’s another way to understand this?”
So please do keep coming to exchange ideas in depth and spark new, interesting thoughts together!
Your webmaster loves this, meow!
Please keep having intense brain sex with me and let us ✝ascend✝ together
And with that, curtain down!